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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

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  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Anna Marina

  Thanks Phizzy - been fact checking since the 1980s.
  

  Yes fooled by Watchtower up to a point but I was lied to in my study and I did not understand their mind games. I stood firm for what I knew the Bible really said and did my best to make sure I was thrown out as publicly as I could be to expose them for what they were. Liars and con-men.

  Sometimes you have to experience how crafty people are and that despite professing to have your best interests at heart (and be telling the truth), they are really trying to enslave you and remove your freedom. I was too naive to understand that anyone would be so cruel to their fellow Man. But I have learnt now.

  Oh and by the time they threw me out, I had already disfellowshipped the Governing Body. I figured they had no claim to be Christian or view me as tax collector.

  (Matthew 18:17) . . .If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.
  
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

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  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  The Hebrew slavery in Egypt.

  Joseph was sold into slavery by his own relatives. He was a man of great integrity and refused to get involved with fornication. He suffered unjustly and even lost his status as a slave and was put in prison where he had to wear iron fetters.
  

  He was utterly helpless and betrayed. But a way out was made for him, because the hand of Almighty God was with him.Therefore, Joseph came to be over the house of pharaoh and all the people had to obey him.

  Later he even made-up, not with those for whom he had slaved but those who had put him into slavery. Ie HIS OWN BROTHERS.

  Also he recognised the benefits that had come from the hardship he had suffered.

  (Genesis 45:4-8) . . .Then he said: “I am Joseph your brother, whom YOU SOLD INTO EGYPT. 5 But now do not feel hurt and do not be angry with yourselves because YOU SOLD ME HERE; because for the preservation of life God has sent me ahead of you. 6 For this is the second year of the famine in the midst of the earth, and there are yet five years in which there will be no plowing time or harvest. 7 Consequently God sent me ahead of you in order to place a remnant for you men in the earth and to keep you alive by a great escape. 8 So now it was not you who sent me here, but it was the [true] God, that he might appoint me a father to Pharaoh and a lord for all his house and as one dominating over all the land of Egypt.
  
  
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Anna Marina

  (2 Timothy 3:3) . . .not open to any agreement. . .
  
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  Notable Watchtower Quotations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  let's share some notable wts quotations that demonstrate the arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy etc.

  of the watchtower leadership.

  “‘zion’s watch tower’ has, we believe jehovah for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support.

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  Awake 1953 Oct 22
  

  People generally are misinformed, tragically deceived and woefully ignorant of that is happening in the world. Never before have so few fooled so many about so much. When war makes millionaires who own or influence means of disseminating information, there is no way of being sure that what you hear is reliable.
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Following a leader and taking sides - if you take sides but both sides are meaningless, you just get meaningless contradiction. Or put it another way if you follow the pot that's calling the kettle white or black, where will that get you?

  And if you think Hegel's stuff sounds bonkers, then yes you have understood it correctly. It is bonkers. That is the point.

  And I'm pointing you in the direction Hegel got his ideas from which - ie the Franciscans who like the WTBS used the concept of Parousia which WTBS base their authority on.
  
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  Kant knew that meaningless contradictions were the result of the 'dialectic method' (thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis or black hand, white hand bring them together and you have a grey hand). Despite this Hegel (following Fichte) used this machine of meaningless contradictions and set about convincing others that the nature of reality and the history of mankind was a meaningless contradiction.
  
  Marx impressed by Hegel used dialectics in his book published in 1867 Das Kapital. Engels retooled the dialectic for Marx (he made it non-idealistic) and together they called this the 'philosophy of dialectical materialism.'
  
  Dialectic materialism has played a prominent role on the world stage. In today's contentious political argument dialectics may mean 'how we ought to perceive things, know them and interpret them as good or bad.' Therefore it can mean religion and morals. Or it can mean that everything outside of one's perception is interconnected, contradictory and dynamic (spiritual, becoming something, he causes to become, JHWH). Or it can just mean a discourse.
  
  Whatever it means, Hegel said that dialectic is the method by which human history unfolds. Histroy progresses, it becomes something in the present tense.

  1137 AD - Hermetic thinker Joachim de Fiore born. He was a Calabrian monk who developed mystical theory of history that came to excercise an influence on German Pietism and Hegel.

  Circa 1200 Joachim Fiore theorized the dawn of a new era based on his interpretation of verses in the Book of Revelation when the Order of the Just would rule. Joachim distinguished between the "reign of justice" or of "law", in an imperfect society, and the "reign of freedom" in a perfect society. He wrote of parousia and a new age of Holy Spirit. Members of the spiritual wing of the Franciscan order acclaimed him as a prophet.
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Hi Resolute Bandicoot and Terry - look at Pam's video (about the fist sign) then go to 3:06 of Resolute's video on the Frankfurt School. The fist is is the same one but with different colouring.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYUwpxxnves&t=3s

  The idea of being forcibly shut up is like WTBS and it's concept of apostacy.

  They mention Freud in the video Resolute Bandicoot put up. Here's a bit of extra info:-

  Freud said to Einstein the greatest obstacle to the creation of a central organisation to secure peace lies in man's destructive instincts. Libido can be harnassed to counteract destructive instincts and bring about a superior class of independent and fearless intellectuals able to guide the masses into the path of reason.

  Freud would accept no criticism of his methods, even justified doubts. Once again how similar to WTBS.

  Thank you both for putting the link to that excellent video. It is very informative.
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Just spotted a typo - should read (Ministry of Truth in 1984).
  
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  “White Privilege”

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

  i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

  in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

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  Sorry if this isn't the right place to put this - but I have read that the riots are really about Communism not what colour skin you have. That narrative is just a tool for destablising society.

  On the subject of Communism the issue is property. But Marx's economic stuff didn't work in Stalinist Russia because the ordinary people were moral due to their Christian morals. Some will call that religion others will call that culture. Because Marxism failed, the Communists set out to carry out a cultural attack. It became known as the Frankfurt School and media organisations like Hollywood and the BBC (Ministry of Trust in 1984) were used to pump out Frankfurt School messages.

  Now the issue is property - maybe you think houses, cars, money. But do you think wife and children? No marriage ultimately facilitates legalising rape, no ownership of your children means you have no rights to protect them from any kind of bully or predator.
  
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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

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  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  Anna Marina

  New role for special pioneers. Stay in, watch tv.